Legislature(1995 - 1996)

02/06/1995 08:08 AM House RES

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 HRES - 02/06/95                                                               
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 HB 113 - REPORTS BY OUT OF STATE FISHING VESSELS                            
                                                                               
 PETER ECKLUND, AIDE, REPRESENTATIVE BILL WILLIAMS, PRIME SPONSOR,             
 stated HB 113 will give the Board of Fish the authority to adopt              
 regulations concerning foreign fishing vessels transiting or in               
 state waters.  He said HB 113 would allow the board to require                
 foreign fishing vessels to report to the ADF&G the quantity,                  
 species, and origin of fish on board.                                         
                                                                               
                                                                               
 MR. ECKLUND explained HB 113 will assist the ADF&G in their effort            
 to collect data on the state's border fisheries.  HB 113 could                
 provide ADF&G with additional in-season management data, providing            
 the state with some significant and timely information that was               
 previously unavailable to the state's fisheries managers.  He said            
 HB 113 will also help protect the state's interest by deterring               
 potential illegal fishing in the state's waters.  He noted that               
 section two of HB 113 directs the Board of Fish to consider for               
 adoption, before May 1996, the provisions of HB 113 concerning                
 foreign fishing vessels present in or transiting the waters of                
 Southeast Alaska.  He urged the committee to support HB 113.                  
                                                                               
 MR. ECKLUND indicated that when HB 113 was heard in the Fisheries             
 Committee, Representative Ogan asked about a fiscal impact on the             
 Department of Public Safety.  Mr. Ecklund contacted that department           
 and was told verbally that the department would have a zero fiscal            
 note.                                                                         
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE JOE GREEN wondered, in light of the zero fiscal                
 notes, if there will be a method of getting cooperation from the              
 foreign vessels.                                                              
                                                                               
 MR. ECKLUND responded HB 113 will enable the Board of Fish to set             
 up requirements and regulations regarding Canadian or foreign                 
 fishing vessels reporting origin, species, and quantity on board.             
 He explained there has been a dramatic increase in Canadian                   
 trawlers in the Dixon Entrance, in southern Southeast Alaska.                 
 These trawlers fish during the day, come into Alaska waters and               
 anchor up at night, and then go back to Canadian waters during the            
 day.  He stated ADF&G, the Department of Public Safety and other              
 departments affected will be involved in writing the regulations,             
 if the Board of Fish decides to pursue this area.                             
                                                                               
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 GERON BRUCE, REPRESENTATIVE, ADF&G, stated ADF&G would be involved            
 in adopting the regulations which HB 113 would enable.  He said               
 most likely, ADF&G would have minimal activity and would probably             
 just set up a record-a-phone and the regulations would require the            
 Canadian or foreign vessels who are coming into the state's waters            
 to anchor, report in and have their catches enumerated on a                   
 recorded message.  He stated in regard to enforcement, ADF&G does             
 have some current activity associated with the state's fisheries in           
 the Dixon Entrance area as does the Department of Public Safety.              
 He explained as resources permitted, they could perform spot checks           
 in the course of their routine operations.                                    
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE SCOTT OGAN asked if ADF&G supports HB 113.                     
                                                                               
 MR. BRUCE said ADF&G supports HB 113 and would attempt to put a               
 program in place if the Board of Fisheries so directed.                       
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE KOTT asked if there were any international                     
 implications with HB 113.                                                     
                                                                               
 MR. BRUCE responded the department is working intensely with the              
 Canadian government within the Pacific Salmon Commission arena,               
 which is the body that implements the Pacific Salmon Treaty.  In              
 addition, George Utermohle, legislative attorney, has prepared a              
 legal opinion on the legality of HB 113 which says as long as the             
 provision is directed at protecting the state's resources, he                 
 believes it would be a legal exercise of state authority.                     
                                                                               
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 REPRESENTATIVE KOTT asked if the state is already regulating                  
 Canadian vessels from the state's perspective, through another                
 which would give some precedence.                                             
                                                                               
 MR. BRUCE replied in regard to fisheries he did not believe the               
 state is.  He said the area being discussed (Dixon Entrance) is a             
 unique situation which was brought about because the boundary area            
 is disputed and Canadians are fishing closer to Alaska than they              
 are to their own home port.  He stated the state does not allow               
 fishing by foreign vessels in Alaska's waters and therefore are not           
 regulating them.                                                              
                                                                               
 MR. ECKLUND said according to the drafting attorney, as long as the           
 state enacts the legislation primarily to protect the state's                 
 interest by deterring potential illegal fishing in the state's                
 waters, the attorney believes that simply asking Canadian or                  
 foreign fishing vessels to report the amount and species of fish              
 they have on board is not much of a hindrance and is within the               
 state's right.                                                                
                                                                               
 CO-CHAIRMAN GREEN made a MOTION to place HB 113 before the                    
 committee.                                                                    
                                                                               
 CO-CHAIRMAN WILLIAMS asked if there were any objections.  Hearing             
 none, the MOTION PASSED.                                                      
                                                                               
 CO-CHAIRMAN GREEN questioned if HB 113 would impact other areas in            
 the state.                                                                    
                                                                               
 MR. ECKLUND replied HB 113 only allows the Board of Fish to set up            
 requirements regionally.  If the board chose to set up requirements           
 for only southern Southeast Alaska, they can do that.  He said                
 HB 113 does not bind the board to set up regulations statewide.               
                                                                               
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 REPRESENTATIVE KOTT asked if HB 113 passes, what would be the                 
 penalty if a commercial foreign vessel does not report in.                    
                                                                               
 MR. BRUCE replied it would be a misdemeanor under Title 16.                   
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE KOTT felt the penalty should be stiffer.                       
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE KOTT made a MOTION to MOVE HB 113 out of committee             
 with individual recommendations.                                              
                                                                               
 CO-CHAIRMAN WILLIAMS asked if there were any objections to the                
 motion.  Hearing none, the MOTION PASSED.                                     

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